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    Object of the Week March 24th 2019 - Abell 1367

    Abell 1367
    ACO 1367
    Leo Cluster

    R.A.: 11h44m30.0s
    Dec.: +19°50'00"
    Size: 24.6'

    Galaxy Cluster Abell Class 2 1 Bautz-Morgan Class II-III


    The third brightest galaxy cluster, at least for northern hemisphere observers, is the Leo cluster, Abell 1367. It is often overlooked in favour of the more
    popular Abell 1656 which is a pity as it offers some fine galaxy observing. Abell 1367 is thought to be a dynamically young cluster with two sub groups
    in the process of merging and lies at the point where two filaments join. One group is centred around the active galaxy NGC 3842 with its optical jet
    and the other is around NGC 3862 and contains the X-ray centre of the cluster. The high number of spirals also suggest this is a dynamically new cluster.
    The cluster lies at a distance of about 330 million light years and is part of a filament of galaxies that included the Coma Cluster Abell 1656 as
    well as numerous smaller galaxy groups. All of these make up
    part of the great wall of galaxies. The brightest galaxies in the cluster, NGC 3842 and 3862, were as perhaps expected discovered by William Herschel but
    his son John added a lot more of the galaxies in the cluster that ended up in the NGC. The NGC contains 26 galaxies in the cluster area, although not all
    are members of the cluster. There are also a number of IC galaxies in the cluster. One of the challenges of observing the cluster is the large spatial area
    it covers over a square degree of sky. Albert Highe found over 200 galaxies listed within 1.25 degrees of the cluster centre, however most studies suggest
    the cluster contains maybe 80-129 galaxies, Albert also provided a very useful chart of the cluster but unfortunately his web page has now gone,
    although undoubtedly it could be retrieved with the Internet Wayback machine. Probably one of the first amateur studies of the cluster was published in
    the Webb Society Deep Sly Observers handbook in 1981 and this included observations with 16 and 36" telescopes. Lughinbubl and Skiff also published
    a chart and observations in the Observing Handbook and Catalogue of Deep Sky Objects in 1990. Steve Gottlieb with his older 17.5” telescope records 60
    cluster members so I assume that many more can be seen with larger telescopes. My first experience of the cluster was under the dark skies of Wales
    with a 15” when I was surprised by the number of galaxies I could see. Unfortunately it also showed me that observing galaxies from my home location was
    going to be a waste of time as the high levels of light, and other forms of pollution meant it was a disappointing experience going back to these observations,
    even with a larger telescope. Interestingly the sizes given for the cluster vary widely with Megastar quoting 100’ and others suggesting around 24’. This may
    represent either just the core area or the whole cluster. As the cluster galaxies are relatively bright this is a fine cluster for observing with medium sized telescopes
    as well as large ones.

    aco1367.jpg

    aco1367cht.jpg

    As always give it a go and let us know.
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    Great choice, Owen! Too bad to see Albert's website gone. I have both Albert's finder chart and the Excel list of galaxies stored locally. I can share them here if I am allowed to.

    My own observation with my 20" telescope from SQM 21.1 skies on May 1, 2016, read:

    "Strong wind and bad seeing complicated this observation. Despite that, I managed to identify several NGC galaxies and an IC, a UGC and a LEDA galaxy and I made a drawing at 256x. The galaxies identified are NGCs 3837, 3840, 3841, 3842, 3844, 3845, 3851, 3860, 3861, 3862, 3873, 3875, IC 2955, UGC 6697, LEDA 169975."

    I usually don't make drawings so I was very surprised myself to find I made one Here it is:

    Abel_1367.jpg

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    I must admit that long ago I downloaded all the finder charts and lists as well as creating a PDF of the website. I know he was not well and hope this is not an indication that he has passed away. Hopefully somebody from the TAC group can enlighten us.

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    Great choice indeed. So far I have this, from two years ago (12" SCT F/10, 13 mm, SQM 21.9 - "the night of the 218 Herschels"):

    "Abell 1367. Leo. Field after field chock-full of galaxies. [William] Herschel objects NGC 3842, 3851, 3860, 3862, 3875, 3883, 3884 specifically identified. NGC 3875 with supposedly non-Herschel 3873: both components seen, Herschel object is obviously both."
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    Hi All,

    Here is my contribution at the OOTW of the present week: AGC 1367 core seen with a 10" versus a 25".
    Detail report at: http://www.deepsky-drawings.com/agc-...635/dsdlang/fr

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    AGC 1367 core T254 vs T635 B Laville.jpg

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    "Albert Highe found over 200 galaxies listed within 1.25 degrees of the cluster centre, however most studies suggest the cluster contains maybe 80-129 galaxies, Albert also provided a very useful chart of the cluster but unfortunately his web page has now gone, although undoubtedly it could be retrieved with the Internet Wayback machine."


    Here you go...

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170908...367_60_60F.jpg

    ... and here is Albert's original page for Abell 1367...

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160626...ghe/a1367.html

    ... and here is Albert's Home Page where you can find his other observing projects...

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160412...ighe/home.html
    Last edited by Paul Alsing; March 26th, 2019 at 07:40 AM.
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    Nice group Owen.

    In the past I just concentrated on the NW part. Results similar to Bertrand.

    sketch: 18", 274x, NELM 7m5+ (ORM, La Palma), Seeing III
    Abell1367.jpg

    With the 27-inch I found one sketch of the pair around NGC 3861.

    sketch: 27", 293x-419x, NELM 6m5+, Seeing III
    NGC3861.jpg
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