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Marko
February 14th, 2013, 05:21 AM
Full OR attached, it had to be hacked a lot to fit here so only best info below with 18" f/3.7 StarMaster mainly

Willow Springs DeepSkyRanch Sat 2-9-2013 Deep Sky Observing In On A Deep Freeze Winter Night

Observers: Kevin Ritchel, Steve Gottlieb, Richard Navarrete, myself (Mark Johnston)

Conditions: Sqm generally around 21.5 with 6.6 NELM or better. Transparency 5/5 with seeing 4/5
Temperatures were from 32F down to 26deg F with rare, light winds.
Equipment: 18" f/3.7 StarMaster, some views in Steve Gottlieb's 24" f/3.7 StarStructure (Thanks Steve)

NELM: 6.6 see: 4/5 trans: 5/5 sqm: 21.5

Summary: Ngc2403, Arp 268, Ngc2366/2363, Maffei I, Hickson 20, 35, 50,
11 gals in Orion's Agc539, 9 galaxies in Ngc2684 group, SH2-252, Jellyfish Nebula

con: Cas cmt1: Maffei I
UGCA 34 Wein 19 Czernik 11 Maffei I Anon 0232+59 PGC 9892
Glxy 11.4v 1.8x 1.3' 68 S0- pec: RC3 02 36 35.5 +59 39 17
8:11pm 6mmDe 324x A faint evenly illuminated glow 30" in observable size 1.3EL at perhaps 70dPA. a 1/6fov [2.1'] 5-star elongated pentagon 'Auriga like' pattern encloses Maffei I where the 'top' was up in my view or west. The glow had non distinct edges and was detectable averted in moments of good seeing that would last 2-5 seconds. The glow that I could count on was around 1/2 of the space between the bottom right and mid-right stars of the Auriga-like pattern [26" or 1/2 of 52.6"]. The 6mm Delos in the Paracorr had much better contrast than 8mm Delos.

con: Ari cmt: Hick20 scope: 24SsF3.7 3 dim fuzzy dots (A,B,C) see attached details (inSteve Gottlieb's 24" scope)

con: Cam cmt: Ngc2403_Area:
NGC 2403 UGC 3918 CGCG 309-40 CGCG 310-3 MCG +11-10-7 Kara 197 IRAS 7321+6543 PGC 21396
Glxy 8.9b 22.1x12.4' 127 Sc RC3 07 36 51.6 +65 36 10
9:00pm 6mmDe 324x With north at 11pm we see a mostly EW pair of bright stars that mostly bracket the main glow [these stars are GSC 4120:1000 to the east (left) and GSC 4120:764 to the west for 3.6' main core size] I describe a bright area of glow above the east bracketing star by 1/3 spacing of star-pair [1.2']. This is non-stellar. [This is Ngc2404 it seems]. There is darkening below and to the right then an arm glows stronger below and to right of main core. SW 1/4 fov below east star is a field star [GSC 4120:703] and just to it's right is a glowing area that is distinct but I don't have a designation. Another distinct glow is in 4pm direction from right bracket-star 1/2 spacing of bracketing stars [1.8']. Also off of right bracket star we go upwards to 1pm 5/8 space of bracket stars [2.25'] [This was found to be VS 3]. Going east by about the bracket-star spacing [3.6'] we see another bright area. [I believe this is VS 24] The brightest part of the central section is fairly uniform and 4/10 of bracket star space [1.45'] dia. This main glow has on it's lower [S] side an obvious foreground star that is itself 4/10 [1.45'] of the space starting from left bracket-star to the right but is just above the connecting line. [Ucac3 312:46991]. Inspired by Steve Gottlieb March 2013 S&T article but I had not brought the chart from the piece so just noted what I was seeing and missed one but saw two other bright areas not discussed in the article.

NGC 2366 UGC 3851 CGCG 330-38 MCG +12-7-40 DDO 42 IRAS 7233+6917 PGC 21102
Glxy 11.5b 8.2x 3.3' 25 Irr RC3 07 28 53.1 +69 12 44
9:15pm 6mmDe 324x 1/4fov [3.3'] 3EL appearing as a faint diffuse glow. A faint field star is just to right of the core [SkyX says mag 15.7] With N about 10:30 we see an equal mag triangulum 2.5el tri pointing down and to left at 45deg or roughly east [1.8' in len] Length of 2366 is 1.3x len of tri [2.3'] with a very bright glow on the far right side or SW side. The bright H2 region has fuzzy appearance with stellar point and seems very slightly elongated close to EW.

NGC 2363 UGC 3847 MCG +12-7-39 Mkn 71 PGC 21078
Glxy 13.0 1.8x 1.0' 20 Irr PGC 07 28 29.7 +69 11 34
9:15pm 6mmDe 324x We can detect a stellar point that we can hold for 2-3 sec at a time. If in this view where N is 10:30pm we start at the H2 region in lower right of Ngc2366 and go up [NNW] by 4/10 of the way [3.3'] from the H2 to the rightmost 'triangulum star' [GSC 4360:918] we find a dim field star [4/10 is 1.3'] Rotate to the right from H2 region 20 degrees and it is here we can see with patient viewing the core of Ngc2363 pop in and out for 2-3 second or longer periods of time. Not other glow noted. I describe this core glow as colinier and half way along a line from the H2 region of Ngc2366 to a lone but dim field star that is twice the radius [6/10 or 2'] out from the H2 region at about 1:30pm or WNW. This farther out FStar is brighter and 100% viewable averted so is brighter than core of 2363. Observation inspired by Steve Gottlieb March 2013 S&T article.

cmt1: Ngc2403_Area_HolmbergII:
UGC 4305 CGCG 331-34 Arp 268 MCG +12-8-33 Kara 239 7ZW 223 DDO 50 IRAS 8140+7052
Glxy 11.1b 7.9x 6.2' 15 Dwarf Irr RC3 08 19 12.3 +70 43 15
9:30pm 6mmDe 324x 1/8fov obvious glow [1.7'] I describe a 1.3 tall IsoTri that points to 8pm in this view where N is 10pm. In the upper left of the field a broad chevron pointing to 5pm that points towards the smaller tri shape. Glow above and to the right of the Tri structure is very distinct. Movement seems to show far fainter glow off to the left that may extend the full length of the dwarf to be as much as 1/4fov [3.3']. With careful study and time I felt that the dimm glow above and to the left of the small triangle [North of the triangle] is gone by a point that would be defined by an EQ triangle if another star was below the bottom, horizontal, chevron stars [below, SE, and centered between GSC 4377:2375 and GSC 4377:2213]. Observation inspired by Steve Gottlieb March 2013 S&T article. I did not have the article with me so was not aware enough to note the bright knot designated as HSK 45 but did note as a detail that the galaxy itself was the brightest just above the brightest of the tiny triangle stars which is where the knot is supposed to be. I noted another brightening 1' N of this star which also seems to show as a slight brightening in the DSS but nowhere near as bright as HSK 45. A third distinct brighter area was noted to be up and to the right of the triangle by the spacing of the triangle [about 1' W of HSK 45].

con: Lyn cmt: Hick35_4of6: scope: 24SsF3.7Pc Summary - 4 Fuzzy, tiny dots in space. See attached summary

con: Ori cmt: Agc539: Summary - 11 Fuzzy, tiny dots in space. See attached summary for this fun project.
UGC 3275 CGCG 421-19 MAC 0516+0630C CGCG 421-17 MCG +1-14-15
MAC 0516+0630B MAC 0516+0627C UGC 3274 MCG +1-14-12 CGCG 421-16 MAC 0516+0626A

con: UMa cmt: Ngc2684_Group: Summary - 9 fuzzy, tiny dots in space. See attached text (a fun mini-project)
NGC 2684 NGC 2686A NGC 2686B NGC 2687A NGC 2687B NGC 2688 NGC 2689
MAC 0855+4906 MAC 0855+4910B 2MASX J08551456+4911408

con: UMa cmt: Hick50 scope: 24SsF3.7Pc (leave this as it's a tough one)
Hickson 50A PGC 34447
MltG 18.7 0.2x 0.2' -- E PGC 11 17 06.5 +54 55 01
1:00am 6mmEt 435x This A member of this illusive hickson group was easily seen a total of 5 or more times as a blinking in for a second or two in rare moments of good seeing. A field star that was always visible 20" [to the SW] of the A member made a great reference point. At no time were both A and B seen at the same time. This was in Steve Gottlieb's StarStructure 24" scope pointing very high on this night of very good to excellent transparency.

Hickson 50B PGC 34452
MltG 18.9 0.3x 0.1' 61 L PGC 11 17 08.4 +54 55 01
1:00am 6mmEt 435x This B member of this illusive hickson group was only seen twice by myself to pop in for over a second. Because it is twice the spacing away from the field star it could not have just been Hickson 50A again as distance judgement was clear. At no time were both A and B seen at the same time. This was in Steve Gottlieb's StarStructure 24" scope pointing very high on this night of very good to excellent transparency.


con: Ori cmt1: Sh2-252 Quick observation, see full attached text for more

con: Gem cmt1: JellyfishNebula: Getting low so just a quick test of Ethos 13mm and NPB, nice combo for big stuff.

Assorted eye candy time and finished around 3am at sub 26 degrees.

Steve Gottlieb
February 14th, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mark, very nice descriptions of the HII regions. Using the two reference stars you mentioned that bracket the main glow of the galaxy, it was very easy to verify the objects you logged. Here are the two in your observations without designations ----

> SW 1/4 fov below east star is a field star [GSC 4120:703] and just to it's right is a glowing area that is
> distinct but I don't have a designation.

You picked up the HII region VS 48/49. This one, as well as several others, was logged in Jimi's 48", but I didn't have time to confirm in my 18" when the article was written.

> Another distinct glow is in 4pm
> direction from right bracket-star 1/2 spacing of bracketing stars [1.8'].

This one is VS 9. These objects were also cataloged as stellar associations by Paul Hodge in 1985, so VS 48/49 = H 73 and VS 9 = H 22.

BTW, I had a chart with me with all the HII regions in NGC 2403, which you could have borrowed. But it was probably more fun "discovering" them on your own.

Jimi Lowrey
February 14th, 2013, 05:19 PM
Nice report Mark!

Glad you Northern California guys finally got a night in. :D

Hickson 50 is a tough one I was able to see all the members only once in my old 25" on a night of 10/10 seeing and 10/10 transparency in Southern Arizona at 7000 + feet elevation.

Steve Gottlieb
February 14th, 2013, 09:07 PM
Hey, it's not all bad -- I was out to dark skies a couple of nights earlier. Of course, we're almost guaranteed to have clear skies as we approach full moon ;-)

Ivan Maly
February 15th, 2013, 06:46 PM
Read the report with interest. Your description of the Holmberg II area in particular was immediately recognizable; I observed this curious galaxy earlier this month (thanks to Steve's S&T article) but could not see any knots in it (16", 225x).

Preston Pendergraft
February 16th, 2013, 11:33 PM
Hey, it's not all bad -- I was out to dark skies a couple of nights earlier. Of course, we're almost guaranteed to have clear skies as we approach full moon ;-)

Or a work night will guarantee clear skies too!

Steve Gottlieb
February 17th, 2013, 03:16 AM
Or a work night will guarantee clear skies too!

Speak for yourself - some of us are just enjoying retirement. ;-)

Marko
February 17th, 2013, 07:35 AM
I had quite a fun night on this observing session although in California term it was 'mighty cold' I did not seem to notice it due to proper layers and being so occupied at the eyepiece.

Thanks Steve for identification of the other two areas in Ngc2403 I had noted. I realized you may have the chart but was not planing on on making 2403 such a project. Just got into it a bit so it turned out that way.

I too enjoyed Holmberg II Ivan as I had not realized just how big it is with the very faint glow.

I love the field recorder as it make note taking in the field very easy as long as I am specific in directions and detail. What I have found is if I try to translate east/west and so on I have messed up many times in the past. I then have great difficulty writing up the OR from numerous field mistakes in N-S-E-W (3am gazing can do that) so now everything is sizes relative to key stars (trick I learned from SteveG). For position I make a note of my best guess of where west is then after that I describe all positions of objects relative to some key star and 'clockface' directions and it makes listening to the tape with a DSS image handy later on writeup much less confusing.

I also enjoy the galaxy clusters done that night but to see those the attachment must be opened as the actual OR is 18kbytes (too big and franky too wordy for one post anyway).

I was surprised on Hickson 50 as well but Steve has quite a nice scope and the transparency was quite good it seems.