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Howard B
August 17th, 2020, 01:01 AM
Emission nebula
Vulpecula
RA: 19 40 22
DEC: +27 18 34
Magnitude: approximately 13 (guess)
Size: 1.0’

I was observing from my backyard a couple nights ago and, on a whim, decided to have a look at NGC 6813. Cygnus was in a good position relative to my house and nearby trees, and when I opened Interstellarum to chart 30, my eye almost immediately fell on NGC 6813. Just two degrees east of Albireo and only a half degree into Vulpecula, the small rectangular symbol printed on chart 30 implied it was a small, faint nebula.

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I thought it would be an unremarkable reflection nebula, but NGC 6813 turned out to be much more interesting than that. It was easy to sweep up with my 28-inch under 20.40 SQM skies, and it appeared as a small, elongated slash of nebulosity at 155x, my low power. I’ll guess it’s approximately 13th magnitude, and I’m guessing only because I can’t find a source that quotes a magnitude. Anybody know where to find the magnitude for 6813?

Regardless, it was an easy catch under a semi-dark sky, and during exceptionally poor seeing conditions. Even though I was thinking this was a reflection nebula I tried my NPB filter - and whoa – 6813 increased in apparent size by about 10 times! The OIII filter gave noticeably higher contrast, and now 6813 looked like a nice round planetary nebula. I bumped up the power to 408x for the best view.

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There’s a star in its center – EM* VS 33 – which is a 13th magnitude emission line star (http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=EM*+VES+++33&NbIdent=1). It was best seen without a filter, and has a faint companion to its south, and a brighter companion about four times as far away, to its north. Given the poor seeing I’m surprised I could see these stars at all. All three have a very different Gaia parallaxes so they aren’t physically associated.

The best image I’ve found of 6813 is at http://www.spacebanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5461&stc=1, and the photographer posted more info at https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/485827-ngc-6813-interstellar-matter-aka-emission-and-reflection-nebula/

All in all, NGC 6813 was a fun surprise and showed up well in less than optimal conditions – and is a good reminder of the treasures waiting just off the beaten path.

Give it go and let us know!

Steve Gottlieb
August 17th, 2020, 06:53 AM
I don't know about the magnitude, but this is definitely a little-observed nebula (based on the lack of reports I've run across). Here are my notes through my old 18" Starmaster...

18" (7/12/07): picked up at 115x as a small, hazy glow surrounding a mag 13.5 star. Adding an OIII filter, this emission nebula appeared as a moderately bright, round, 1.5' glow surrounding the star. At 174x the center "star" appears double and the nebulosity responds well to an OIII filter. At 225x, the two close central stars are cleanly resolved and a third fainter star is just at the northern edge. Adding a UHC filter, the shape is irregular and the overall outline shifts with averted vision, though it does not appear to be larger than 1.2'-1.5' visually despite a catalogued diameter of 3'.

wvreeven
August 17th, 2020, 09:21 AM
Here my notes with my 20" from SQM 21.0 skies on September 19, 2015:

At 151x and 320x I see a faint oval smudge around a faint double star. I don't see any details inside the nebula. It responds well to UHC and even better to OIII.

Clear Skies
August 17th, 2020, 10:10 AM
Three observations in my log for this nebula, which is nr. 1-93 on Minkowski's list.

2 November 2018, 20:17 in the French Ardennes, 14" SCT, SQM 20.86, rated it 5/10

17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4 (168x / 29'): A very faint glow surrounding a mag. 12.5 star (component A of the double star Burnham p.m. 9003) with a faint star to its south (component D). With AV the nebula is slightly oval shaped and elongated north to south.
Burnham p.m. 9003: A and D are in the nebula, B is not visible. AC and AE split, E is very wide.
E is yellow-orange and approximately mag. 8.5.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon UHC: Using this filter the nebula is clear and slightly elongated north to south without AV.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon OIII: The effect is comparable to that of the UHC filter but the UHC filter has a slightly better effect.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon Hydrogen-Beta: Using this filter the nebula is visible only with AV.


7mm TeleVue Nagler Type 6 (407x / 12'): Component B of BUP9003 is not visible.


3.5mm TeleVue Nagler Type 6 (814x / 6'): As with 17 and 7mm, component B of BUP9003 is not visible.


The data for component B of BUP9003 in WDS2018.8 is from the year 1910, apparently not observed later.


16 October 2017, 20:48 in the French Ardennes, 14" SCT, SQM 20.74, rated it 5/10

17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4: A mag. 13 star with a mag. 14 star to its SE at a PA/sep. of approximately 160/12", to the NNW is a mag. 14 star at approximately 350/50" (components ACD of double star Burnham p.m. 9003). Surrounding these stars is faint nebulosity.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon UHC: Using this filter the nebula is slightly clearer and larger, a better effect than the OIII filter.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon OIII: The effect of this filter is comparable to that of the UHC filter but not as strong.



25 September 2014, 21:12 in the French Alps, 12" SCT, SQM 21.13, rated it 4/10

17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4 (179x / 27'): A small, very faint, slightly NNW-SSE elongated glow, resembles a small elliptical galaxy. In the nebula are a mag. 14 (NNW) and a mag. 14.5 (SSE) star aligned NNW to SSE (components A and D of the double star Burnham p.m. 9003). On the NW edge is a mag. 15 star that is visible only with AV (component D). To the SSE is a mag. 12 star, just a little further towards the NW is a pale orange mag. 10 star (component E).


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon UHC: This filter has good effect, the nebula is more round than elongated and is, without AV, just a little brighter than unfiltered with AV.


17mm TeleVue Nagler Type 4, Lumicon OIII: As with the UHC filter but not as strong an effect.


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Don Pensack
August 23rd, 2020, 08:19 PM
I've seen this in my 12.5" and examined it at ~300x, no filter (altitude 8350', mpsas 21.5)
It's very interesting and has a slightly irregular edge.
My notes:
sml, relative formless without internal detail, best vis.averted, faint but not excessively so, no briteness var. seen across the nebula, slightly ragged edges, v.slightly oval,
couple of superimposed stars. Much brighter and easier to spot at 140x with a UHC filter.

Uwe Glahn
September 26th, 2020, 08:27 PM
Finally, I had the chance to observe this nice guy. Thanks for the reminder Howard. As you mentioned a very interesting object.

Although the nebula showed strong filter reaction I observed without any filter to resove as much stars I could see in the tight center.

sketch: 27", 419x-488x, NELM 6m5+, Seeing III
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